Why I Stopped Using Pinterest {& Started Using Clipix}

This has been on my mind the past couple of days and while I’m loving Blog Positivity Week, I feel like it’s time for this to be said.

I was late in joining the Pinterest party.

I didn’t need another thing to kill time and honestly, I’m just not one to get into things right away. Eventually I signed up and would spend a few hours pinning things every week, never thinking twice about it. It was just a way to keep all the things I loved together and share things with others.

But then I started hearing about the Terms of Service. And let’s be honest – I never read them.

This post made the most sense of them all. It explained everything I was missing, yet everything that was insanely important at the same time. It showed me that the things I pinned were no longer just a part of my inspirational files. They had become things that Pinterest could sell. Things that they would hold me accountable for because I pinned them. Things that would cost me time and money because I’d have to face someone’s lawyer.

All of this left me so disheartened about Pinterest that I deleted my account immediately.

Yes I love the things I have pinned.

Yes I may have lost some beautiful photos, recipes, ideas, etc.

But it wasn’t worth it for me. I wasn’t going to wait to get sued. And I wasn’t willing to put someone else’s work (who had no choice in the matter) out there for Pinterest to use as they wished even if it did have credit given to them. I couldn’t justify it in any way. So I walked away.

Luckily for me, while I was reading through the endless amounts of information, I found another site that’s incredibly similar in nature. Clipix. However, there’s a key difference: you can set all of your boards to private. Which means anything I find inspiring, I can still keep in a centralized location. The images and resources I save just won’t be shared with the world and cause unnecessary harm to myself or the fellow artists I tried ot support via Pinterest.

While this does prevent me from spreading the word about handmade business I love as easily, I know that there’s got to be a better way than giving someone easy access to ripping them off. Be it through my Friday Favorite series or the Saturday Showcase (both back next week!), or through Twitter and Facebook, I’ll be making an effort to help support you in a way that gives you full credit and doesn’t result in negative backlash for anyone.

And for those of you that want a code that says “no pinning allowed from this website”: You can find out how to in the Pinterest help page by looking at “What if I don’t want images from my site to be pinned?

However, it invalidates my feed when I do it so be sure to ensure that it doesn’t do it to your site, too. Until I square that issue away . . . I simply ask that you don’t pin images from here along with the rest of my don’t steal things and please ask for permission wording.

On the flip side: I know that many continue to use Pinterest and by all means, that is your choice. But please be considerate to those you choose to pin as they may not be okay with the terms and conditions that Pinterest has. In the end, you’ll be held liable so it’s kind of a lose-lose situation for everyone.

UPDATE: Pinterest actually updated their TOS today (you can read it on their blog) with new things going into effect on April 6th. I personally will not be returning to Pinterest, but it does look like they are going in the right direction.

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Comments

  1. In everything that you read, did you find anything with Pinterest addressing any of these issues? I'm curious as heck what they have to say about this. And also truly bummed. I figured it was too good to be true. And if you think that it usually is.

  2. But as long as I correctly source my pins from pinterest on my bloggy – I'm okay, right? I like using WeHeartIt.com, too for images to use on my bloggy. I'm not a photographer, but I like to be inspired by the Pins and such. I'm hoping that as long as I source the information and give credit where it is due, then I'm okay. Well, I hope so!

    • Per their terms: “…By making available any Member Content through the Site, Application or Services, you hereby grant to Cold Brew Labs a worldwide, irrevocable, perpetual, non-exclusive, transferable, royalty-free license, with the right to sublicense, to use, copy, adapt, modify, distribute, license, SELL, transfer, publicly display, publicly perform, transmit, stream, broadcast, access, view, and otherwise exploit such Member Content only on, through or by means of the Site, Application or Services. Cold Brew Labs does not claim any ownership rights in any such Member Content and nothing in these Terms will be deemed to restrict any rights that you may have to use and exploit any such Member Content.”

      Which means that anything you pin (credited or not) is being given to them to sell as if it was their own item. And if that happened and someone hired a lawyer, they'd come after you as it states you'd pay their legal fees/are held responsible.

      So it's nice to have them credited, but per their TOS… it doesn't matter :(

      • I'm curious as to what this part specifically means " and otherwise exploit such Member Content only on, through or by means of the Site, Application or Services. ". If I'm reading it right, it means that they're only using it within their own site, not elsewhere. Not that that makes it an awful lot better, but it does narrow it a bit.

        For what it's worth, and I am not a follower of your blog otherwise and so I don't know if it is something you've addressed before, it should be noted that Facebook claims such ownership over anything that you post on your FB page too… photos, statuses, and are now already using content you've posted in targeted ads to your friends. Something that is a huge issue if you've posted stuff on your FB from your business or creative endeavor. It can be taken as far as that FB can sue you over the ownership of your content that you've signed your rights away over.

        As with any service, it's worth remembering that "If you're not paying for the service, YOU are the product." You are being bought and sold as marketing/advertising fodder, and being data-mined at every step (Google is starting to do this with the recent changes to their ToS and the way they gather data from your logins, emails and searches).

  3. I shut down my Pinterest account too, only a day or two ago. As Nay says, it should be enough to ensure that you appropriately credit the source, but unfortunately, their T+C's make it such that "responsible pinning" isn't enough. Thanks for sharing Clipix – having a method for collating the images/articles (and their sources) that I've found particularly inspiring or thoughtprovoking was a really nice concept, which I resented having to let go!

    (oh, and I'm going to be keeping my eye on when Pinterest change their T+C's – it's a great site, just not one worth risking my legal standing over!)

    • I totally agree about the site! Should anything change with their terms and it's fair to everyone, I know I'll be back. It's unfortunate that they created it knowing these things.

      • I like to think (but maybe it's naive…) that they didn't really think through the implications. This would be particularly true if they outsourced the contract writing…

  4. What an interesting read. I was unaware of most of this! So sad! Pinterest is such a wonderful tool. xo, rv
    http://aneclecticheap.blogspot.com/

  5. Thank you for posting about this – this is exactly why I'm shutting my account down!

  6. I deleted my pinterest a couple of weeks ago after reading something similar on another blog. I couldn't be doing with all the hassle of if something was going to happen. While it was a good way to waste a couple of hours every week if there's something I like I just bookmark the page now – not as pretty but less threatening legally.

  7. I deleted my account a couple weeks ago. I saw a few people blogging about these same issues with Pinterest so I figured I didn't wanna get involved until they fixed their TOS. I hope other people will read up on the site,but a lot of people don't care,either. I guess they will when they get sued. :/ Thank you for sharing the info!

  8. I was planning to spend time this weekend going back into my pins and bookmarking everything instead, so the link to Clipix is perfectly timed for me! Thanks!

  9. I never got into the Pinterest craze, and had no idea about their terms of service. Bullshit! I’m curious about this Clipix site now. Shpanks for the link doll!

  10. I've heard a little about all the Pinterest controversy, and it was such a bummer because I'm such a huge fan of the site. Thanks for the recommendation to Clipix, I'm going to give it a try today!

  11. I read that post this morning, and it sealed it for me – I deleted my Pinterest account this afternoon. It makes me sad because I really love that concept & usefulness of having all my links in one place, but with all the legal implications, it's just not worth it. I blogged a little about what I think, and I linked to you {hope you don't mind!} because I like how you've written this. :) I never really used my bookmarks bar before, but I will be now!

  12. thank you for posting this! just this morning, my husband came out to the living room as i was working on my laptop and informed me that pinterest owned any of my original content i may have posted. he's constantly online, and had found an article on scientific american from a few days ago on this same subject. without even giving it a second thought, i deleted my account. then i was on facebook and saw the link to your post here. it made me feel better about closing my account, as i often have regrets when i do things spontaneously. i'm also putting together a post on my blog with links to this post. you really said it in a way i would not be able to explain. thanks again!

    sabrina
    the doubtful pixie

    • Facebook also owns all the content you post, status updates and photos and the works. Problematic if you're posting images of content that you would like to sell or republish at some point (say you're a(n amateur) photographer or crafts person). They're already using your content in targeted ads to your friends.

  13. You may have already seen this, but it JUST went up this afternoon…I had just posted something on Facebook about all of this, and Pinterest's Facebook announcement of their updated terms popped up directly after:
    http://blog.pinterest.com/post/19799177970/pinter

    I read them over fairly thoroughly, and they seem to be a lot better! AND they're going to start the availability of private pinboards! I'm still a little wary about the whole copyright issue though…I guess I'll wait to see how the whole thing plays out once the terms take effect on April 6th.

  14. I'm so so so bummed about this whole Pinterest thing! I love Pinterest because I find so many amazing things, projects, ideas, even nail polish colors that I like. I mainly use it to keep all the things I'd otherwise bookmark, in one location. but now I'm going to see if i can add my favorite pins to clipix.

  15. Just recieved an email from Pinterest stating they updated their terms of service:
    "Our original Terms stated that by posting content to Pinterest you grant Pinterest the right for to sell your content. Selling content was never our intention and we removed this from our updated Terms.
    We updated our Acceptable Use Policy and we will not allow pins that explicitly encourage self-harm or self-abuse.
    We released simpler tools for anyone to report alleged copyright or trademark infringements.
    Finally, we added language that will pave the way for new features such as a Pinterest API and Private Pinboards."

    Not sure if you heard yet (literally just received it today) I was working on getting rid of my pinboards (just deleted a bunch and transferred my favorite ones to clipix) but I may stick around for a bit and see how this pans out.

  16. Regina Morrison says:

    Interesting stuff here. I think when something catches on so quickly, there are a lot of growing pains. Hopefully everything can get worked out and bloggers can take the responsibility to properly cite sources

  17. I'm still deliberating what to do with my pininterest boards..there are so many pretty things on it . I too have joined clipix and think from now onwards will use that more then pinterest.

  18. I've never heard of Clipix but I am definitely going to check it out now. I saw Pinterest redid their terms but I'm still a little weirded out after reading the fine print!

  19. I found Clipix this afternoon & re-organised some desktop articles & links. The functions are very useful for an info hoarder like me – because I have to see visual reminder of things to remember their existence. My memory is useless these days, anything out of sight for half a day is wiped from the mind.

    Sadly I never got into Pinterest posts but it is encouraging that they have reacted positively to public sentiments.

    About Facebook, I completely hate how they roughshod over account holders. Yet it is the easiest way I have of keeping in touch with many overseas friends. Would migrate to another site in a heartbeat if there is a viable site!

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